He and Thomas and Rusty etc used to hang out at our band house during that period as well. I've always been so happy to see he and Dawn together in recent months - at the Replay, downtown, etc. I also heard Dave was developing a reputation for doing pretty good handyman repair work, and whenever i've seen him with his kids you can tell they just love him like crazy and he's great with them.

I know he's been through some really tough drug use issues even as recently as a a few years back, but he's always seemed on an even keel whenever i've talked to him in the past couple years, so this comes as a total surprise.

He came so far - his stuttering was so intense when he was a kid and while it still came out some in recent times, he'd really come a long way in difficult circumstances. Jesus H.

I suppose Jackie and his step dad already know since Tom was telling you. Holy crap. If you hear of any services, you might post it in here. There are a ton of people that think fondly of him.

Thomas told me that there would be a service on Thursday.
I was kind of surprised that things had been put together THAT fast.
I don't know any details of when or where, but I'm sure that info will come available.

I'm still kind of weirded out and in shock. I'm not sure of the exact times, but it seems to me that it would have only been hours after I saw him.
Didn't Davey build a whole lot of the back patio of the Replay? And more recently at a new bar (Being developed)?

It's always "weird". But I know Davey has had some REALLY hard times in his life, and some really rough bumps going way way back. So on one hand, you'd think "This guy can survive anything, he's bullet proof", but on the other hand, sometimes people just get sick and tired of dealing with lumps and bumps.

I think this was an impulsive thing, rather then any sort of planned out thing. But i really shouldn't be speculating lest I say something that might give others a wrong idea, or inaccurate idea.

I think Davey spent more time hanging from the beam over the pit at the Outhouse then anyone else.

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Wow. Davey and I spent weeks together when I bought the house on 19th street putting in a new driveway, terracing the back yard, bringing in gravel, etc. That was more than 10 years ago. I did a bunch of roofing tear-off with him 20 years ago or so. Jesus. I hadn't spent so much time with him since giving him rides to shows when he was 12 or whatever. That was such a blast 'cuz he was such a funny kid. I was just talking to him a few months back about doing work for us when we were doing some work on the house. Where is Dawn? And his fucking kids. Jesus christ.
Please let me know about services. If not just to see Dawn and some other folks. Holy fuck. What a night ruiner.
I remember how cursed he was when he got out of the military and threw ALL of his bonus money to buy a little shitty place for his family but wasn't insured and it burned down within 6 months. He did get some massive lumps.
Wow. I'm really fucking bummed by this. I swear I drove that tiny little fucker to 20 shows when he was in Jr. High. And ran around trying to kick people's asses for giving him booze. And driving out there with him the next day to pick up the lot for Bill for $20 each or whatever. What a shitter. Motherfuck.

last time i had someone close die prematurely and leave a family behind that made me think about the several people that have died early throughout my life, i wrote this song "What's Gone Away".

i just played it and it does seem to fit. I spent a couple hours on the phone last night with one of my roommates from way back when that tried for years to help, gave him money to get through tough times, until he finally decided he was just enabling him and quit. He felt crushed that he hadn't spoken with Dave in several years, how sad.

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I sent an email to Jason Willis to tell him and he hadn't heard. He told me about another old school Lawrence musician that I didn't even know had killed himself (or at least OD'd) recently (R.B.). I didn't know him well, but this Davey thing makes my "people with whom I was close at some point in time who have killed themselves" total 6. If you include accidental ODs and heart failure from drug and alcohol use of acquaintances, the number jumps to 13 (how did S.G. die? I forget what the official reason was. Was it suicide?).
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I get what Cutler means when he says "just stop it." I wonder what it is / was about this scene or my choice in friends from Jr. High that makes those totals so high.

i'm reluctant to tell Gil since he's strayed in that direction at least once in the past few years, but i suppose he should know or will know anyway. I think it'll hit Rusty pretty hard, and right at a time when Rusty seems to have a reprieve from some serious self destruction - he's actually got a case worker and meds for bipolar and mild schizo, weekly guidance, financial assistance, drug testing, etc. and moved back from NYC and Indianapolis scenes.

and of course Thomas ... jeez, i can't imagine

Scott, you probably went to school with Rob who OD'd in the 700 block of Illinois back around the time David Dale died. He was a real smart guy, also from Lawrence High. Not sure if you included him.

Who died recently that was in the Lawrence music scene from long ago?

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>>4090

You can email me about it. I don't want to post online so that people find out online. Plus, Jason threw his name out in the context of losses this year, and I thought that meant that he was categorizing them as similarly caused. It turns out that RB died from natural causes from congenital shit.
I hope that clears his initials.

The LJW obit (all of two lines) said he was 34. If that's correct, that means he was from 10 to 12 years old during the period he and his buddies were hanging out with us. Strange how our lives unfold.

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I really can't remember him being around in 1984. I remember hearing about this young kid, and that was well after the first Outhouse show (when Kurt first rented it 9/07/1985). We played the third party out there with the Micronotz and some band that only played one show ever called "You Want Something?" Flyer attached. And I know I hadn't met him then. But it wasn't long before we started giving him rides out there. I can't remember who started dragging him out there.... Todd Risley maybe -- they lived near each other, but there were a lot of kids from that neighborhood.
He must have been 12. I remember him showing up in 1986. I might have met him at the U.P.S. house party in 1985, but I'm pretty sure that he appeared in 1986. I remember thinking how fucking young he was, and I was 16 or 17.
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For fun and nostalgia, here is Jason Willis's flyer archive. For some reason, it includes an inordinate number of set lists from my two bands of the era, immaculate reception and Shup Bish. If you look at them, we put cues to jump on certain songs. How improv:
http://www.mrfink.com/flyers/index.html

it was late 1984 or early 1985 when he and Rusty and Thomas and some kid named George and a few others would come by and hang out. I knew his mom some from Drake's where i spent just about every morning, and from doing this poetry thing on KJHK with her and Marcus Phillips.

It was well before the Outhouse opened. I played out there a couple times in the first year and half then then got sucked up into a different scene except for occasional crazy experiences out there.